Sorry for the super long comment guys. You don't have to read it on the show or anything, I was just honestly interested.
Sorry, Jeff, you are my fav drood (/lick) but I have to agree with your co-hosts. Being gay is not really a right, it's just something that you are. Having a right dictates that you have a choice to do it or not. It's not a choice to be black, gay, tall or short. You don't really have a right to do any of these things. That's just who people are. I think that's why maybe Griff was a little upset about the word "right". There is no choice in this.
And on the matter of being in peoples faces, there are some people who are "in peoples faces" with the gay movement. But not everybody is like that. Should everybody who is gay state the fact that they are gay all the time and be in their faces all the time? /ponders now I can see how bringing their mate to the company picnic or something like that is akin to something like a silent demonstration. Would you look down upon someone who is gay but is not outspoken about being gay? Not that they are hiding it, but doesn't go out of the way to state that they are gay. Is this anything like if a person was of a mixed race, they would have to state that they are black and let everybody know this? Or do you see that this is something different? (That's a serious question).
And I wonder how the percentage of straight people that marriage doesn't matter compares to the percentage of gay people that marriage doesn't matter. Do you think it's comprable? I have no idea what the percentages might be. I was just wondering in my head.
Ok, sorry for me getting so deep. I honestly don't get a chance to have a back and forth dialogue with somebody who is gay so I don't get to ask the questions that I have always wondered. And on this same note, how do you feel when someone who is straight is generally interested in the way the gay culture feels about certain issues. Do you feel like you shouldn't talk on behalf of the gay community? Do you feel uncomfortable? Are you excited that somebody wants to know more? As an African-American, I welcome back and forth dialogue and if somebody wants to know more, I love to try to educate but I do caution them that they are my views and might not necessarily reflect the views of other African-Americans. Future topic idea maybe?
Thanks guys so much and /lick Jeff.
penitus_me
· 2 months ago
So I've been listening to the podcast for a couple months and caught the DADT comments made interesting. As a soldier who has served almost 6 years, been through basic combat training and advanced individual training with a gay man, and served twice in Iraq. I can only tell you guys my opinion from my experience in the Army. DADT may not be the best policy for gay soldiers serving or LGBT people who want to serve, but it is for the cohesion of soldiers who are not comfortable with gay people. We live, work, and fight in close quarters with each other( that includes shower, shit, and shaving). I saw how other soldiers treated the gay soldier in basic. No one wanted to shower with him, pair up in combative sparing, sleep in the same tent during field training exercises. We have to be close like family and be professional to complete our mission whatever it may be. So if members of the family has unprofessional attitudes and feelings because "he/she is gay" or "he/she wants to fuck me" the mission suffers and lives are endangered. I don't like that some peoples prejudices are so strong they exclude someone because of who they are. But until the day we can say "lets throw away this misconception that all GAY PEOPLE are depraved sex fiends" and get to know them as PEOPLE. DADT wont be a necessary evil. I love the podcasts guys and I look forward to the next one though I think they should be daily instead of weekly.
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Sorry, Jeff, you are my fav drood (/lick) but I have to agree with your co-hosts. Being gay is not really a right, it's just something that you are. Having a right dictates that you have a choice to do it or not. It's not a choice to be black, gay, tall or short. You don't really have a right to do any of these things. That's just who people are. I think that's why maybe Griff was a little upset about the word "right". There is no choice in this.
And on the matter of being in peoples faces, there are some people who are "in peoples faces" with the gay movement. But not everybody is like that. Should everybody who is gay state the fact that they are gay all the time and be in their faces all the time? /ponders now I can see how bringing their mate to the company picnic or something like that is akin to something like a silent demonstration. Would you look down upon someone who is gay but is not outspoken about being gay? Not that they are hiding it, but doesn't go out of the way to state that they are gay. Is this anything like if a person was of a mixed race, they would have to state that they are black and let everybody know this? Or do you see that this is something different? (That's a serious question).
And I wonder how the percentage of straight people that marriage doesn't matter compares to the percentage of gay people that marriage doesn't matter. Do you think it's comprable? I have no idea what the percentages might be. I was just wondering in my head.
Ok, sorry for me getting so deep. I honestly don't get a chance to have a back and forth dialogue with somebody who is gay so I don't get to ask the questions that I have always wondered. And on this same note, how do you feel when someone who is straight is generally interested in the way the gay culture feels about certain issues. Do you feel like you shouldn't talk on behalf of the gay community? Do you feel uncomfortable? Are you excited that somebody wants to know more? As an African-American, I welcome back and forth dialogue and if somebody wants to know more, I love to try to educate but I do caution them that they are my views and might not necessarily reflect the views of other African-Americans. Future topic idea maybe?
Thanks guys so much and /lick Jeff.
I saw how other soldiers treated the gay soldier in basic. No one wanted to shower with him, pair up in combative sparing, sleep in the same tent during field training exercises. We have to be close like family and be professional to complete our mission whatever it may be. So if members of the family has unprofessional attitudes and feelings because "he/she is gay" or "he/she wants to fuck me" the mission suffers and lives are endangered. I don't like that some peoples prejudices are so strong they exclude someone because of who they are. But until the day we can say "lets throw away this misconception that all GAY PEOPLE are depraved sex fiends" and get to know them as PEOPLE. DADT wont be a necessary evil. I love the podcasts guys and I look forward to the next one though I think they should be daily instead of weekly.
C.T.